AGAweb Reading and Posting FAQ

These questions and answers deal with how to process what you read in AGA, how and when to ask questions in AGA, how and when to answer questions in AGA, what's allowed and acceptable in AGA, and so forth.

If your question isn't answered in any of these FAQs, ask it on alt.guitar.amps !

The Questions

  1. I have a question...
  2. Do I need to respond after people answer my question?
  3. Is there a FAQ for AGA?
  4. Format doesn't matter, right?
  5. What's the best way to reply - should I put my post before or after quoted text?
  6. What's with all the off-topic posts?
  7. Why does So and So act like that in their posts?
  8. What do you mean by "flamed"?
  9. What is "netiquette"?
  10. Where can I find guidelines about "netiquette", posting style, etc?
  11. Is it OK to post schematics to AGA?
  12. Is it OK to post images to AGA?
  13. Is it OK to post MP3s, WAVs or other sound files to AGA?
  14. Is it OK to post other binaries to AGA?
  15. OK, are there any CONTENT-based FAQs for AGA?
  16. Why, when someone brings up Hitler or Nazis, does Lord Valve (or whomever) declare that they win, and think the discussion is over?
  17. What's up with these sociopaths and pyschopaths that seem to be stalking AGA regulars?
  18. It sure seems like this newsgroup is going downhill lately.
  19. Is there an archive? Where can I search or read old AGA posts?
  20. Why do people get so upset about others' posts?

Some Answers

  1. I have a question...

    Before you post a question, read the group a bit. Read at least the last couple of weeks' posts. This will give you some idea of the tone of the group, and the personalities involved. If your question doesn't appear within the last two weeks, check the FAQs at http://aga.rru.com/ . If you still don't see your question (likely in the FAQs, since they're just getting started) try an advanced Google search (http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search). In the box marked "Newsgroup" enter "alt.guitar.amps." Enter your words to search for in the approperiate box at the top of the page. Fill in other fields as you like. Look though the results. Then, and only then, if you don't find the answer, should you post your question.

    [with help from Scott McKnight]

  2. Do I need to respond after people answer my question?
     Haven't you other guys noticed how someone posts a question
     and all sorts of people post a bunch of possible solutions,
     but the original poster a lot of times doesn't bother to post
     back and give us the results?
     Isn't that a real big incentive to try to help?
     Am I the only one who notices this?
     It makes me wonder why bother.
     If you don't give any answers to this or if you don't report
     the actual solution to the problem, then don't bother posting
     here anymore.
     For the techs here, it's not like they have your amp on their
     bench.
     For the DIY cats, it's something they may want to be able to
     research.
     For the guitarist, it's something to be aware of when they
     take their amps in for repair.
     
    [Excerpted from a helpful response by Elvis Paisley. I was tempted to tone it down a bit, but I felt he expressed the frustration so well, and people should be aware of how frustrating it is when this happens.]

  3. Is there a FAQ for AGA?

    No.

    Just checkling to see if you were paying attention. There are several. This is one of them. All of them are available at http://aga.rru.com/ . Just click on anything there that says "FAQ".

    [This is PMG's fault.]

  4. Format doesn't matter, right?

    Correct - with a couple of exceptions.

    Please do use newlines (use the "Return" or "Enter" key to statr new lines) in your posts. Do not just let your editor wrap lines for you, as they may not wrap in some readers.

    Also, paragraph breaks are essential to clarity and keeping readers from getting fatigued as they try to follow a long post.

  5. What's the best way to reply - should I put my post before or after quoted text?

    The generally accepted way is to get rid of all the original post except the parts absolutely necessary for context, and put your responses inline after the text you are responding to. But not everyone agrees. Please don't waste bandwidth arguing about this. But do cut out the excess when you reply; don't include whole posts when only a few lines really matter! This makes it easier to find your content, and cuts down on network usage. And, as John Shinal points out:

    And even more important, conserving vital resources.

    Few people realize the effect that the Internet Boom has had on text characters. With the vast increase in automated delivery of text through Web servers, there has come a huge upsurge in consumption of text. SPAM, mailing lists, excessive quoting, it's all using text characters in quantities never before seen in human history.

    Already the vast African herds of R's, M's and B's are showing signs of stress - fewer fonts are being spotted in the wild text herds. The Goudy Font breed of M may already be extinct. Most of the vowel species are suffering from the long drives between range and market. Fortunately the prolific 'w' is as numerous as ever.

    Worst of all is the "T". Used heavily in modern English, the T has the longest growth cycle of any letter, from the juvenile t, the adolescent with it's plain crossbar, and finally the magnificent bull "T", with it's menacing serifs. Tragically, adolescent T's are being harvested and passed off as the Windows default Arial T, where the lack of serifs isn't apparent to the common Web surfer.

    Preserve our priceless text characters ! Protect the free-range consonants and vowels we love ! Support font diversity !

    -John S. Shinal

    -Miles

  6. What's with all the off-topic posts?

    Newsgroups in the alt hierarchy tend to be a bit anarchical. They aren't generally subject to the rules and regulations of other usenet newsgroup hierarchies such as soc or comp . So, yeah, you should mostly try to stay within the newsgroup's name for topics, but in fact anything goes.

  7. Why does So and So act like that in their posts?

    People act however they want. A lot of the posts you see may seem sarcastic, cynical, silly, terse, arrogant, or just plain mean. Sometimes they are. Sometimes people get carried away. Sometimes that's just their personality, either in real life or just on the Net. Reading up on people in the 'AGA People' section of the AGA website (http://aga.rru.com/) is a good idea, as is reading a lot of posts by an individual before you decide how to take them.

    It's a good idea not to judge people based on one or two posts, unless you like being flamed.

  8. What do you mean by "flamed"?

    Roasted alive in responses to your post[s].

  9. What is "netiquette"?

    Etiquette on Usenet (newsgroups such as AGA).

  10. Where can I find guidelines about "netiquette", posting style, etc?

    A good set of things to read first includes:

    1. A Primer on How to Work With the Usenet Community
      ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.announce.newusers/A_Primer_on_How_to_Work_With_the_Usenet_Community
    2. Hints on writing style for Usenet
      ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.announce.newusers/Hints_on_writing_style_for_Usenet
    3. Rules for posting to Usenet
      ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.announce.newusers/Rules_for_posting_to_Usenet
    4. What is Usenet?
      ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.announce.newusers/What_is_Usenet%3F
    5. What is Usenet? A second opinion.
      ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.announce.newusers/What_is_Usenet%3F__A_second_opinion.
    6. Writing Style
      ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/usenet/writing-style/part1
    7. Emily Postnews Answers Your Questions on Netiquette
      ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.announce.newusers/Emily_Postnews_Answers_Your_Questions_on_Netiquette

    We highly recommend the latter for those who enjoy satire.

  11. Is it OK to post schematics to AGA?
  12. Is it OK to post images to AGA?
  13. Is it OK to post MP3s, WAVs or other sound files to AGA?
  14. Is it OK to post other binaries to AGA?

    Unless it's an ASCII graphic, don't post a schematic. Never post any form of binary - image, sound, video, executable, whatever to AGA. In fact anything that would normally go as an attachment should not be sent. Don't even send PostScript or PDF. No Word docs. No HTML, even. Just plain, ordinary text. That's the lingua france of Usenet.

    Posting binaries in AGA violates USENET etiquette and rules. You should never post any form of binary to a group that doesn't include ".binaries" in its name. This is true even or "alt." groups.

    Beyond this, many news hosts filter out all binary files to groups whose names don't include ".binaries" in them. So many people won't see them.

    Your best bet is to put such things up on your web site or ftp server and publish the URL in your post. But you can also see if there's an appropriate newsrgoup to post the binary to (such as alt.binaries.schematics.electronic), post the binary there, and mention in your post to AGA the subject of the post containing the binary, along with the newsgroup it was posted to. If all else fails, offer to email your binary to people who email you for it.

  15. OK, are there any CONTENT-based FAQs for AGA?

    Yes. Visit the official AGA web site at http://aga.rru.com/ and click on "FAQs".

  16. Why, when someone brings up Hitler or Nazis, does Lord Valve (or whomever) declare that they win, and think the discussion is over?

    This is the AGA version of Godwin's Law (http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/. When a discussion degenerates to the point that comparisons to Hitler or Nazis are used in posts having nothing to do (overtly) with either one, whoever was being addressed in that post may be declared the winner and that thread may be officially considered ended.

    This being an alt. group, one is not necessarily bound to abide by this law, but continuuing such a thread will usually just make you look silly, at best.

  17. What's up with these sociopaths and pyschopaths that seem to be stalking AGA regulars?

    Just that. They seem to be sociopaths and psychopaths, so they act that way. It seems to be related to full moons, so some kind soul has started posting a calendar with this decade's full moons so these poor souls (or jackasses, depending on your viewpoint) will know when to post more. Here it is (note - it's forged as being from the AGA web gang, but I think it's so great I have granted the poster AGA Web Gang Honorary Knighthood):

     From: aga@rru.com
     Subject: AGA Lunar Calendar (regular posting)
     X-Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps
     Organization: Roadkills-R-Us
     Cc: 
     Status: O
     
     AGA Full Moon Calendar (a service provided for the psychopaths that 
     regularly post to AGA)
     
      Year   New Moon          First Quarter     Full Moon         Last Quarter
     
      2001
                               Jan  2  22:32     Jan  9  20:25     Jan 16  12:36
             Jan 24  13:08     Feb  1  14:02     Feb  8  07:12     Feb 15  03:25
             Feb 23  08:22     Mar  3  02:03     Mar  9  17:23     Mar 16  20:47
             Mar 25  01:23     Apr  1  10:49     Apr  8  03:22     Apr 15  15:32
             Apr 23  15:27     Apr 30  17:08     May  7  13:53     May 15  10:12
             May 23  02:47     May 29  22:10     Jun  6  01:40     Jun 14  03:29
             Jun 21  11:58     Jun 28  03:20     Jul  5  15:04     Jul 13  18:47
             Jul 20  19:44     Jul 27  10:09     Aug  4  05:56     Aug 12  07:54
             Aug 19  02:55     Aug 25  19:54     Sep  2  21:44     Sep 10  19:00
             Sep 17  10:27     Sep 24  09:30     Oct  2  13:50     Oct 10  04:20
             Oct 16  19:23     Oct 24  02:57     Nov  1  05:42     Nov  8  12:22
             Nov 15  06:40     Nov 22  23:20     Nov 30  20:50     Dec  7  19:53
             Dec 14  20:48     Dec 22  20:57     Dec 30  10:41
     
      2002                                                         Jan  6  03:56
             Jan 13  13:30     Jan 21  17:48     Jan 28  22:51     Feb  4  13:34
             Feb 12  07:42     Feb 20  12:03     Feb 27  09:17     Mar  6  01:26
             Mar 14  02:04     Mar 22  02:29     Mar 28  18:25     Apr  4  15:30
             Apr 12  19:22     Apr 20  12:49     Apr 27  03:00     May  4  07:17
             May 12  10:46     May 19  19:42     May 26  11:51     Jun  3  00:06
             Jun 10  23:47     Jun 18  00:29     Jun 24  21:42     Jul  2  17:21
             Jul 10  10:26     Jul 17  04:47     Jul 24  09:07     Aug  1  10:24
             Aug  8  19:15     Aug 15  10:12     Aug 22  22:29     Aug 31  02:32
             Sep  7  03:10     Sep 13  18:08     Sep 21  13:59     Sep 29  17:03
             Oct  6  11:17     Oct 13  05:33     Oct 21  07:21     Oct 29  05:28
             Nov  4  20:35     Nov 11  20:52     Nov 20  01:35     Nov 27  15:46
             Dec  4  07:35     Dec 11  15:49     Dec 19  19:11     Dec 27  00:31
     
      2003
             Jan  2  20:24     Jan 10  13:16     Jan 18  10:49     Jan 25  08:34
             Feb  1  10:50     Feb  9  11:12     Feb 16  23:52     Feb 23  16:47
             Mar  3  02:36     Mar 11  07:15     Mar 18  10:35     Mar 25  01:52
             Apr  1  19:19     Apr  9  23:40     Apr 16  19:36     Apr 23  12:19
             May  1  12:15     May  9  11:52     May 16  03:35     May 23  00:31
             May 31  04:20     Jun  7  20:26     Jun 14  11:15     Jun 21  14:46
             Jun 29  18:38     Jul  7  02:32     Jul 13  19:20     Jul 21  07:02
             Jul 29  06:52     Aug  5  07:28     Aug 12  04:47     Aug 20  00:49
             Aug 27  17:25     Sep  3  12:35     Sep 10  16:35     Sep 18  19:03
             Sep 26  03:08     Oct  2  19:11     Oct 10  07:27     Oct 18  12:32
             Oct 25  12:50     Nov  1  04:26     Nov  9  01:14     Nov 17  04:16
             Nov 23  22:59     Nov 30  17:16     Dec  8  20:38     Dec 16  17:43
             Dec 23  09:44     Dec 30  10:04
     
      2004                                       Jan  7  15:41     Jan 15  04:46
             Jan 21  21:07     Jan 29  06:03     Feb  6  08:49     Feb 13  13:40
             Feb 20  09:20     Feb 28  03:24     Mar  6  23:16     Mar 13  21:02
             Mar 20  22:43     Mar 28  23:48     Apr  5  11:04     Apr 12  03:47
             Apr 19  13:23     Apr 27  17:33     May  4  20:34     May 11  11:05
             May 19  04:53     May 27  07:57     Jun  3  04:20     Jun  9  20:03
             Jun 17  20:28     Jun 25  19:08     Jul  2  11:09     Jul  9  07:34
             Jul 17  11:24     Jul 25  03:38     Jul 31  18:05     Aug  7  22:01
             Aug 16  01:23     Aug 23  10:12     Aug 30  02:21     Sep  6  15:10
             Sep 14  14:28     Sep 21  15:54     Sep 28  13:08     Oct  6  10:12
             Oct 14  02:47     Oct 20  21:59     Oct 28  03:06     Nov  5  05:54
             Nov 12  14:25     Nov 19  05:51     Nov 26  20:07     Dec  5  00:54
             Dec 12  01:28     Dec 18  16:39     Dec 26  15:06
     
      2005                                                         Jan  3  17:46
             Jan 10  12:03     Jan 17  06:57     Jan 25  10:32     Feb  2  07:27
             Feb  8  22:29     Feb 16  00:15     Feb 24  04:54     Mar  3  17:37
             Mar 10  09:12     Mar 17  19:18     Mar 25  21:00     Apr  2  00:51
             Apr  8  20:34     Apr 16  14:38     Apr 24  10:08     May  1  06:25
             May  8  08:48     May 16  08:58     May 23  20:20     May 30  11:48
             Jun  6  21:57     Jun 15  01:24     Jun 22  04:15     Jun 28  18:24
             Jul  6  12:04     Jul 14  15:21     Jul 21  11:01     Jul 28  03:20
             Aug  5  03:05     Aug 13  02:39     Aug 19  17:54     Aug 26  15:19
             Sep  3  18:45     Sep 11  11:37     Sep 18  02:00     Sep 25  06:41
             Oct  3  10:27     Oct 10  19:00     Oct 17  12:13     Oct 25  01:17
             Nov  2  01:23     Nov  9  01:57     Nov 16  00:56     Nov 23  22:12
             Dec  1  14:59     Dec  8  09:36     Dec 15  16:14     Dec 23  19:37
             Dec 31  03:11
     
      2006                     Jan  6  18:56     Jan 14  09:47     Jan 22  15:14
             Jan 29  14:15     Feb  5  06:28     Feb 13  04:44     Feb 21  07:17
             Feb 28  00:32     Mar  6  20:15     Mar 14  23:35     Mar 22  19:10
             Mar 29  10:16     Apr  5  12:01     Apr 13  16:41     Apr 21  03:28
             Apr 27  19:45     May  5  05:13     May 13  06:52     May 20  09:20
             May 27  05:27     Jun  3  23:06     Jun 11  18:04     Jun 18  14:08
             Jun 25  16:06     Jul  3  16:36     Jul 11  03:03     Jul 17  19:13
             Jul 25  04:31     Aug  2  08:45     Aug  9  10:55     Aug 16  01:52
             Aug 23  19:09     Aug 31  22:56     Sep  7  18:43     Sep 14  11:17
             Sep 22  11:45     Sep 30  11:03     Oct  7  03:13     Oct 14  00:26
             Oct 22  05:13     Oct 29  21:25     Nov  5  12:58     Nov 12  17:46
             Nov 20  22:17     Nov 28  06:29     Dec  5  00:24     Dec 12  14:32
             Dec 20  14:00     Dec 27  14:48
     
      2007                                       Jan  3  13:57     Jan 11  12:44
             Jan 19  04:00     Jan 25  23:02     Feb  2  05:45     Feb 10  09:51
             Feb 17  16:14     Feb 24  07:56     Mar  3  23:16     Mar 12  03:55
             Mar 19  02:43     Mar 25  18:16     Apr  2  17:15     Apr 10  18:04
             Apr 17  11:36     Apr 24  06:35     May  2  10:10     May 10  04:27
             May 16  19:28     May 23  21:02     Jun  1  01:04     Jun  8  11:43
             Jun 15  03:14     Jun 22  13:14     Jun 30  13:49     Jul  7  16:54
             Jul 14  12:04     Jul 22  06:28     Jul 30  00:49     Aug  5  21:21
             Aug 12  23:02     Aug 20  23:54     Aug 28  10:36     Sep  4  02:34
             Sep 11  12:44     Sep 19  16:48     Sep 26  19:46     Oct  3  10:07
             Oct 11  05:01     Oct 19  08:33     Oct 26  04:52     Nov  1  21:19
             Nov  9  23:03     Nov 17  22:32     Nov 24  14:30     Dec  1  12:44
             Dec  9  17:40     Dec 17  10:17     Dec 24  01:15     Dec 31  07:50
     
      2008
             Jan  8  11:36     Jan 15  19:45     Jan 22  13:34     Jan 30  05:02
             Feb  7  03:44     Feb 14  03:33     Feb 21  03:29     Feb 29  02:19
             Mar  7  17:14     Mar 14  10:45     Mar 21  18:39     Mar 29  21:48
             Apr  6  03:55     Apr 12  18:31     Apr 20  10:24     Apr 28  14:13
             May  5  12:18     May 12  03:46     May 20  02:11     May 28  02:57
             Jun  3  19:23     Jun 10  15:02     Jun 18  17:30     Jun 26  12:10
             Jul  3  02:19     Jul 10  04:34     Jul 18  07:59     Jul 25  18:42
             Aug  1  10:13     Aug  8  20:20     Aug 16  21:17     Aug 23  23:50
             Aug 30  19:58     Sep  7  14:04     Sep 15  09:14     Sep 22  05:05
             Sep 29  08:12     Oct  7  09:05     Oct 14  20:03     Oct 21  11:56
             Oct 28  23:14     Nov  6  04:03     Nov 13  06:18     Nov 19  21:32
             Nov 27  16:55     Dec  5  21:25     Dec 12  16:38     Dec 19  10:30
             Dec 27  12:22
     
      2009                     Jan  4  11:55     Jan 11  03:27     Jan 18  02:46
             Jan 26  07:55     Feb  2  23:12     Feb  9  14:48     Feb 16  21:38
             Feb 25  01:35     Mar  4  07:44     Mar 11  02:37     Mar 18  17:49
             Mar 26  16:07     Apr  2  14:33     Apr  9  14:55     Apr 17  13:37
             Apr 25  03:23     May  1  20:44     May  9  04:01     May 17  07:27
             May 24  12:11     May 31  03:22     Jun  7  18:11     Jun 15  22:15
             Jun 22  19:35     Jun 29  11:28     Jul  7  09:21     Jul 15  09:53
             Jul 22  02:34     Jul 28  21:59     Aug  6  00:55     Aug 13  18:55
             Aug 20  10:01     Aug 27  11:41     Sep  4  16:03     Sep 12  02:15
             Sep 18  18:43     Sep 26  04:48     Oct  4  06:10     Oct 11  08:56
             Oct 18  05:32     Oct 26  00:41     Nov  2  19:14     Nov  9  15:56
             Nov 16  19:13     Nov 24  21:38     Dec  2  07:31     Dec  9  00:14
             Dec 16  12:02     Dec 24  17:35     Dec 31  19:13
     
      2010                                                         Jan  7  10:41
             Jan 15  07:12     Jan 23  10:53     Jan 30  06:17     Feb  5  23:50
             Feb 14  02:52     Feb 22  00:42     Feb 28  16:37     Mar  7  15:43
             Mar 15  21:02     Mar 23  10:59     Mar 30  02:25     Apr  6  09:37
             Apr 14  12:30     Apr 21  18:19     Apr 28  12:18     May  6  04:15
             May 14  01:05     May 20  23:42     May 27  23:06     Jun  4  22:13
             Jun 12  11:14     Jun 19  04:30     Jun 26  11:30     Jul  4  14:36
             Jul 11  19:40     Jul 18  10:11     Jul 26  01:36     Aug  3  04:59
             Aug 10  03:07     Aug 16  18:14     Aug 24  17:05     Sep  1  17:22
             Sep  8  10:29     Sep 15  05:48     Sep 23  09:17     Oct  1  03:52
             Oct  7  18:44     Oct 14  21:25     Oct 23  01:37     Oct 30  12:46
             Nov  6  04:51     Nov 13  16:37     Nov 21  17:28     Nov 28  20:37
             Dec  5  17:36     Dec 13  13:58     Dec 21  08:14     Dec 28  04:19
     
    The original calendar listed only the full moon dates and times; this revised calendar covers all the lunar social (or sociopathic) events. -Miles

  18. It sure seems like this newsgroup is going downhill lately.

    It's like most alt groups. Which means it's a lot like Hobbits setting out on a journey. It wanders over hills and through dales, around forestss, wades in creeks, sneaks into mushroom patches, stops off for a drink now and again, has plenty of rest stops, preferably with food, etc.

    It doesn't need Black Riders from Mordor to make it do this; it just happens this way. The presence of the evil ones just makes it more frantic. And we've certainly had our share of whiny butt, baby orc, Nazgul wannabes lately to try and make it more frantic.

    -Miles, well before the movie came out

  19. Is there an archive? Where can I search or read old AGA posts?

    Google now has almost everything in the usenet archives back through sometime in 1981. Go to http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search, enter "alt.guitar.amps" in the "Newsgroup" field, and fill in whatever other criteria you like. If you get too few or too many hits, broaden or tighten up your criteria as necessary.

  20. Why do people get so upset about others' posts?

    From a response by RonSonic to a particularly clueless sounding individual with an AOL address:

    ``Curiously enough, this group is made up of real humans who have lives and opinions and jobs and families and feelings and stuff. This isn't a verbal arcade of word games generated by some computer for your amusement. Perhaps you were aware of that. Please explain it to your fellows in that intellectual ghetto, AOL.''
    (A high percentage of the abuse on AGA seems to originate from AOL accounts. There are also some good contributors from AOL. -Miles)